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Spcvw

Yep ,another abs fault.

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Same as a lot of other people my abs and brake light stays on and the pedal is hard with extra preassue needed to get any braking..

Not being to mechanical myself my local vw specialst has been looking at this. So far the speed sensors have been checked, preassure switch swapped, replacement pump swapped , rear brake compensator replaced, and ecu swapped. Hes now out of ideas. Ive looked through the nine pages here and passed all info on similar threads forward so im assuming thats all been checked too.

Latest thinking is its getting no fluid to the rear, like the pump is locking down the outlet. Thinking on this is it could be electrical?

Any help/ ideas forward would be gratefully recieved. If it cant be fixed then it looks like swapping to non abs which as im not doin it myself will be very costly.

Thanks in advance

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there doesnt seem to be much help for fixing them and it doesnt help that parts are either very expensive or worn out used stuff

id say unless you are obsessed with having it all working , then start collecting the parts to change it over to non abs , with all the right bits its not much hassle , not as bad as it sounds anyway

a decent garage could probably fit the new servo in 2 hrs , then its just some new brake lines so maybe 4 hrs total if they know golfs and arent having you over , you could strip the interior yourself and remove the old loom

id started to fear mine would decide not to work while im out giving it some stick , so gathered the parts and got rid , any questions just ask

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Thanks for your reply, im in two minds about What to do. I like the feature but not the aggro of fixingit. And its something you should never really use. I dont want to buy any more parts as you say their pricey or 2nd hand and then its hit n miss wether your actually trying a faulty part. To hit n miss.

Hes trying a few things then i thnk in jan ill prob be looking at removal. I thouht it was a bigger job but if it can be done in a day or two then not so bad. Ill update when anything happens ...

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yeah nice to have if its 100% trustworthy , i think id rather take my chances with fully working non abs

i dont know about you but when mine played up the pedal was rock hard and it pretty much had no brakes at all , id have certainly crashed if it happed above walking speed

theres 2 relays you could try ..again i think theyre expensive

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It will be the 30amp fuse above fusebox or relay.

Get them to check if there 12v at pump.. I suspect not.
Pump makes the vacuum.

I had the 2 lights of death and had to sale straight over a cross roads... Brown trouser moment.

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Thanks guys, ill make sure the relays have been looked at and the 30amp fuse, pretty certain it has power at the pump but again ill check before any further money or decisions to remove are made.

Think someone on here posted they killed it before it killed them !. At least that way it cant break again lol

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another bonus with normal brakes is true dual circuit brakes , meaning if a hose pops you should have one front and one rear to make a stop

 

the abs just has one line to the rear

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Haha, yes that scares me every time I look under the car, with the single circuit to the rear!


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seen a couple of american threads where they fitted slightly newer passat abs , might be an idea if you could find a donor car , although sounds like more labour if you cant diy

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I've got most of the stuff to convert to non ABS, so as soon as it starts playing up, it's history.


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Todays update, checked and the 30amp fuse,and relays have been checked and are fine. Pressure switch and pump changed for spare units. Now the current thinking is ( and im relaying this so not perfect) the pump bled the front brakes fine but nothing to the rear so he believes the electronics on the pump are not opening a valve to the rear.

Ive read somewhere the pumps are not servicable items however ive been shown on ekta listings for repair kits priced at £500 and £1000.!!! Thats crazy but hes getting a specialist to open it up in jan and see if a seal or plunger or valve is stuck. If this pump shares any similarities to other brands ,service may be possible.

After swapping pumps the thinking is no job can be bigger than that . Just need to figure out what it is .

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is that no fluid to the rear with the rear beam valve jammed wide open?   you wont get any flow with it as is

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I think rear flow is controlled by a little solenoid.

Will be this if not flow to rear.

On dubforce is a abs repair manual. With testing procedures. I've always used use this

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to add insult i slung my fully working unit as no one wanted it at any price

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is that the LHD G60 with TEVES mk2 ABS unit?


Yes i believe it is.

is that no fluid to the rear with the rear beam valve jammed wide open?   you wont get any flow with it as is


Will find out.

to add insult i slung my fully working unit as no one wanted it at any price


Bugger lol

http://www.vwclub.bg/uploaded/manual/ABS/ABS_MKII.pdf


Thanks ill pass that on. Xmas is a pain lol but hopefully something will get figured out in jan.

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I've got a lhd non abs servo kicking about if that's any use ?


Thanks, ill bear it in mind. Nothing doin till post xmas now lol.

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I can probably assemble all the lhd non abs bits over the festive period as I have an associate out in spain atm and he loves a good mission. 

 

Still got the votex kicking about ?

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get a selection of vac hoses if you have access to lhd cars , the servo to manifold bit is lhd g60 specific so you might need to grab whatver you can to make it neat 

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If someone gives me a list of bits needed then I'll happily assemble a bundle.

 

I've got a servo kicking about (sexy cadmium finish) and I've just requested a set of the front brakelines which won't be corroded considering the environment.

 

Asides from just replacing it all with standard stuff is there anything else specific to it ?

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lhd non abs corrado or passat engine bay bracket

lhd 9" servo inc the seal that pushes against the bulkhead 

lhd g60 vac hose - or grab a load and make something work 

idealy a lhd round resovoir tank with clutch feed , although rhd mk3 ones work + cap

 

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uk 22mm master cly with 4 outlets - just a standard late mk2 gti one

some new kunifer 3/16 hardline with 10x1mm ends

2x 1" grommets for the wings if youre removing the speed sensors

 

as for used brake lines ..corrado with non abs would probably be correct , but the shapes are slighly differant to a gti , you also need the front to rear ones

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Passed the abs guide on thanks and hopefully that will help. Abs pump being looked at in jan to see what can be stripped and serviced .Failing that i thnk everythings been tried. Removal is the last resort as seems daft not to try and fix whats there.

If it goes for removal ill let you know rich and the votex is long gone .

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Why does the servo have to be from a lhd? I'm thinking of doing the same on mine...thanks

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